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how not to repeat?

I can't actually finish this piece on eliminationism as it manifests itself in Western culture specifically. When I read too much of this stuff I become convinced it is going to happen and there's nothing I can do about it. Not a good place.

But if you don't suffer from ptsd you might find it interesting, enlightening, and just scary enough to make you want to--I don't know--vote? Makes me want to buy a gun and hole up in a secluded wooded area in, um, the Castro maybe.

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isindra
Feb. 2nd, 2008 08:18 pm (UTC)
Sorry for the lengthy comment...
"Eliminationists, at heart, really hate the very idea of America."

This piece is fantastic.
Thank you for posting this.

I still can't understand that impulse. I have certainly felt angry feelings toward one person, or toward persons who exhibit a certain behavior (animal abuse for example) but no matter how hard I try to find what empathy I can muster for these eliminationists I just can't do it.

In students who have experienced trauma at a young age I have seen this as late as second grade but once they feel safe again it usually dissipates.

For example, one student told me that he thought we should kill all sharks because they sometimes bite people.

When I explained to him that sharks don't actually bite us that often and that their biting is part of the ocean's ecosystem (we were studying the second grade version of that) he started to understand why the wholesale genocide of all sharks would not just be difficult but also potentially catastrophic he softened his position.

The only way I can even begin to understand these impulses is to recognise the inappropriate reaction to fear, but that only works for the regular guys...there is no empathizing with the leaders of these sentiments.

The most disgusting part is that every group has this. Israelis have those who advocate the elimination of all arabs.
Muslim fascists advocate the elimination of those who do not agree with them.
Christians have those who advocate the elimination of almost everyone.

And men like Dick & George intentionally perpetuate this bullshit to maintain their advantage over us, the schmucks who can barely find time to think between work schedules and social pressures.

It nearly causes me to spontaneously combust.
zonkerb
Feb. 10th, 2008 09:21 pm (UTC)
Interesting article link - unfamiliar with the term, I thought I was going to be reading a Freudian piece about the personalities stuck in the anal expulsive or retentive stages of development. And it kind of was.

Luckily, plenty of us are firmly wedged in other stages of our development and don't play well with eliminationists. Sascha Baron-Cohen for example.
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